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That was the most disappointing. Plenty of opportunities but lack of support n ability / willingness to execute a decent pass highlighted how limited, skill wise, the team is.

Flegg lost 24 16 - second half was better from both teams - dogs had plenty of opportunities - lots of sgball players in the 17 - most went ok.

Dogs have completed probably 5 sets first half. Like an under 10 ten game first half. 18 to 6 roosters. Low quality game so far.

12 6 roosters dogs let the ball go dead from kick off roosters score dogs kick off out on full.

Roosters 6 0 dogs have been tackled three times dropped it twice.

Watching flegg warm up. The difference in size between the dogs forwards n the roosters is huge. Prob only one dogs forward would be considered big. Roosters huge.

His short kicking game was good last night but doesnt compensate for other limitations - love to know who is behind the the improvement in Canbera long kicking game. The dogs beat themselves imho - so many opportunities lost - Preston knock on, jac foot into touch, no support for c tracey when...

Anasta explained the Hutchison issues well a while back(another commentator had a similar explanation) - his lack of speed is an issue both sides of the ball - in attack the defence can slide and delay defensive decisions because they know he cant beat anyone for pace(thinks he can n gets caught...

Jordie mazzone? Jope Raque? Ratu Rinakama? Braith Sloane? Cheldon Hayward? Any thoughts

THanks - ill just assume the dogs site got it wrong - head to Belmore on Saturday

He bought a calculator

catch up game against roosters this weekend

Lack of speed at half n effective running from dummy half minimises the attacking options.

most ball playing lock set ups rarely do much now - seems to slow the attack - not sure whether to run, pass n are too slow eg jake t at manly. Yeo is one that tends to make the decision without hesitancy at club level

can anyone confirm the time day n venue for the flegg game this week (the game washed out a few weeks back) - dogs website says Friday nswrl site says Saturday

Not saying it should happen but Belmore could be greatly improved with elevated seating in front of or on the hill and at the Canterbury road end - similar to that at Kogarah n the Dolphins stadium - capacity would be small but 12 000 that close to the playing field would create atmosphere.

Last time i went looking for a "good boy" - ended up with two! Couldnt separate them

Get two

IMHO when Ragrive was playing fullback he didnt seem "interested" in the heavy contact in defence - similar to Sloane at St George where he would arrive just a little late to tackles - no urgency. The quality of players in pathways is the best its been in a number of years but im yet to see...

Same in my experience. Odd

Havent seen much of Skelton this year but previously despite being extremely effective in carrying the ball his defence ie mis reads, slow turning circle and getting suspended through late high tackles were issues holding him back. Despite that i think he would be playing fg at Parra/ Tigers/ St...

Correct re a number of injuries. He is a huge body but wasn't overly mobile from memory.

Dogs beat Penrith in flegg 10 to 0. Three sgball players in the 17.

Hayward Hutchison Mann and Salmon - all who started their careers in teh halves - when playing lock play such similar roles - imho side would be more balanced with a bigger body running hard n straight rather than asa link player

Given Gould was alluding to Jack Todd debuting soon (prior to broken arm), the ability from next week to select players from outside top 30 n development contracts and the fact that a defensive system seems to be working in all grades - a few changes might not be far way. Preston seemed...

Iv only seen him play three or four times - although at times over played imho he did a lot of very classy things, particularly kicking wise n seemed confident -

hehehe - thats clever

Thats a question for whoever was inthe bunker n the ref Butler

good point

Certainly was - i get that referees on the field will miss things BUT i cannot understand how the bunker gets it wrong so often - not referring to subjective 50/50 calls but the straight up application of a rule as was the case in the DWZ non penalty and the Sezer non sin bin n the ball strip...

rule was changed - cant tackle a player in the air who is attempting to catch on the full a ball that was kicked

Initially thought Stefano would end up their but they dont really need another expensive middle - need a 6 - i think if they play Wong he will make a difference to them at the expense of Nat Butcher.

The brothers they have - Vaa (Vaia) are huge front rowers - both played NSW cup last week - the younger one straight up from SGball

Originally named on the bench

Two sgball players played flegg on Friday night. Hopefully Seve gets a run at flegg level soon. Roosters played one of their sgball middles in NSW cup.

Gus's summary of pathways and explanation of the reasoning behind moving players between grades n positions is greatly appreciated.

Seemed too - judiciary and mrc is a lottery - not saying he will be charged just think that the tackle is more an issue than being a onfield pest

Mahoney may have to worry about the lifting tackle

I don't think in any of the games I'm thinking of has there been any bias, just a sense of the refs not coping with the pressure and players picking up on it

Imho that is the third or fourth time this year a ref has lost control of the game through hesitancy and players attempting to intimidate.Different ref different gender on at least two other occasions. Don't t know if affected results but it's not a good look seeing what appears to be a ref...

Dogs beat tiger s 22 to 10 in flegg

I dont think this will stop at nrl - all elite sports will likely be effected

No BBO any grade??

i assume others in their first year of SGBall will not be moved up this year.

Anyone not yet blocked by Gus on Twitter can they ask who from flegg will be moving up to the flegg squad from Sgball for remainder of the year?

tend to agree

Love the stooges

HM n Sgball comps, imo, were of a very high quality

all three of those props are playing reggies atm - not sure why as their fg teams are not exactly playing well.

I think the importance of being ready physically for the next level(s) is understated - cant really tell just watching a game here n there - rates of physical growth, amount of training undertaken n needed - im not sure souths did the right thing with Munro going from Sgball to Fg in the one...

At same time in careers imho Woods has shown more. Better long kicking game and running game more of a threat.

Rather than call it wrestling call it tackle control technique training

Alatini , woods conti still have another year in sgball. Probably have the ability for flegg already but physically is a big step up.

Not watching game but I seen the dragons backrower Cyrus Stanley play before. Very good. Hope for him he doesn't have the injury issues of the Stanley family

I thought about paying to watch but so much of the NSWRL website is dodgy - its actually worse than the Dogs website - i know its a small expense but i have no confidence in anything associated with it

I know the dogs are up 4 to 0

So his manager - before all this - made it known he was available to be signed but had no takers - hard to see how he could get a ten year career n earn 4mill if that was the case. Could a defence call the recruitment manager of each club and ask would they sign Topine and if so for how much?

Wonder if it was it his first indiscretion - first time being late?

ex dog Lewis is not playing for canberra

Only recall seeing the backrower cyrus stanley play last year - outstanding - pretty sure they lost but he was best on field

IMHO - at the same time in careers Woods has the highest ceiling - skill wise he is probably ready for open age footy BUT physically im not sure if he has developed enough (growth/ training etc) to cope with the physicality at that level. Oneil is a good footy player - defends. kicks n...

Liam Knights comments after the game were very impressive

Most of the utilities all stated as halves - Mann Salmon Hayward Taaffe. Is Joash P fit - seems to have lost pace.

Brad Abbey blitzed the Dogs in RM Cup on the weekend

Havent seen the Dragons sgball team play this year but based on what i saw of Cyrus Stanley-Trail last season he will be a big threat

Iv only seen Tia in two games - both games he kicked extremely well n was robust in attack n defence - overplayed his hand a little. Spot on re defence being the priority - both preston n mann back who gets left out from the 16 who played well yesterday

Preston n mann back for next game. Can't see Hutchinson being in top 20 let alone 17 His strength is meant to be footy IQ but keeps doing a Tolman creating kick pressure on Burton. Hayward, mann, salmon taaffe Tracey all started n the halves.

Hard to be critical with Reggies very dominant. Knights poor. Not sure if joash p isn't fit but seems to have lost a lot of speed. Plenty of opportunities today but didn't show much.

BBO reserve for NSW Cup Samrani playing Ron Massey cup with Rajab - big hints for players in fulltime squad

Both Rogers n Spinks improved significantly after the first game.

Is Matt lodge wearing a hair piece?

The rich side - our housing commission had floors - we started on the Herne Bay side in the army barracks - went to narwee boys

The peakhurst side - 60s n 70s

Hopefully both

I grew up in Riverwood, a fibro housing commission place. Wasn't until I I moved away did I realise how "challenging" it was.

dev contracts can play fg at any time no waiting period

There were a number of times in two games - Badger and Gough refereeing - when it seemed they lost control of the game - seemed to be intimidated by the players to the point of confusion n distress.

First round game the dogs dominated until the bench was used - very lightweight at the time - both teams n coaches would have been improved since then would assume

Flegg big win over the ladder leaders raiders 38 to 12

18 zip - hopefully continues - having watched them a lot this year they can be very hot n cold!

Add to that - he takes himself out of being a fifth tackle kicking option - more pressure on Burton. If the 17 who played on Friday plus 18th man and Morrin n Taaffe are available - Hutchison be in the top 17? His strength is meant to be his kicking n footy iq - neither of which has been on...

Could also argue that the general kicking game was the biggest difference - kicking on the fourth giving Melbourne field position, Hutchison getting tackled on fifth n thus making it easier for Melbourne to pressure Burton and Burton unable to kick to the corners consistently gave Melbourne...

Not sure whether injuries or other reasons but both Sgball n Flegg have made changes to teams today - hopefully the players getting a game step up.

I wonder if Hughes wasn't binned if patolo would have got a second stint. Re run metres for middles kiraz, xerrie more than makes up for it.

Jake turpin starting at lock

Harry Grant is all the creativity they need.

Based on last years form i would have thought Wong would be one of the roosters first chosen each week - forwards like Todd Hopoi Morrin all have a go - effort players but they would be so much better with a couple of big bodies around them - hopefully Suluka fifita n Hughes can fill that void -...

Siu Wong would be good - cant get a run in fg at roosters

Hayes started at the club as a fb/ wing/ centre -usually plays left side - moved into the back row where he is more suited - worker but does have a good offload.

The effect of Kikau's kick chase became really evident in jun reps after first grade season started - players emulating the "big boys" in the club. There is far mor quality across the squads than has been the case for over a decade - there have been players like Wakeham Topine Talau Averillo...

Did RFM have pneumonia last year?

Whilst Hutchison n Salmon have limitations a lot of their defensive efforts are impressive

Did tracey arrive at the club with calf issue?

The second rowers i believe had the wrong numbers - only saw the nswrl highlights but pretty sure it was Harry Hayes scoring the try - both he and Vale are good workers.

In the Flegg games iv seen Cassius Tia kicked extremely well - huge boot and very accurate

Any updates on kikau, king, tracey injuries from Gould?

Damon Marshall getting a run in NSW cup.

The flegg game got postponed so good opportunity for them - maybe ensure the reggies needed for next week eg Poasa Knight etc dont play dont get injured /suspended

Good to know that the game will be played and that players from flegg will be getting a run at this level

Helps running off good halves who play both sides of the field as Woods n Conti often do