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If the only "true" halfback at the club (not in Flegg or lower) can't be found a spot in the team...then the coach's gameplan is wanting and not fit for purpose for a team in F/G NRL. If, on the other hand, it is just preparing for a few years time, getting the defensive patterns right (still a...

For sure. Unfortunately tho he doesn't seem to have that kind of 80 min go in him or the drive to be a main playmaker/reliable x factor for us even with all the encouragement and support he gets from ciro.

It looks like we have seen the most that can be hoped for with the Burto/Hutch combo and there's not much more blood to be squeezed out of that stone. If CC expects more from 36 possessions inside red zone, and with 55% possession, how much longer will it take before he realises the combo...

No that aspect is totally happening and wrong. But its also true we give them so much material with which to clobber us over the head with. Its not gonna change until we earn more respect and that means wins. Imagine being a Tigers fan tho.

Look at the Jimmy Graham situation. Moved on primarily due to the Dora Woods signing and that long ensuing media circus. If ever a player was warranted to feel resentment towards a club it's him. But no took it like a trouper and now back supporting our great "clob". Love Bupa.

Ciro doesn't coach like that either.

That effort against Weekes surely saved him from SOO selection when Madge saw that. Sadly it doesn't look like Matt will ever be utilizing his untapped brilliant potential. Such a great pity that he can't manage to put in an 80 min MOM performance when its all on the line. Frustrating player bc...

It's proving that most supporters who complain or make suggestions or critiques, love the club and have constructive contributions in trying to discuss the faults. No one doubts we will get there and also that that will happen under Ciro, but we have issues now that can sort to be fixed by the...

The worst feeling is kinda just knowing he will miss. There seems very little application? :(

I'm hoping that expose is directed at Ciro, Gus and JT rather than opposition teams lol Well put together tho mate with visual evidence.

Just so disappointing. We revert back to that kind of one out rubbish. Even in last 10 mins that's all we could offer up to add to our score and get points :( When that happens the coach neeeds to work out WHY and act to fix it. He hasn't reacted or adjusted his thinking about this flaw in our...

$20K fine for using the word "stupid" ;)

Good observation. Some guys who should be doing that job are either cruising or don't have the competitiveness or else skill level to influence the game.

He is gleeful at our mistakes and rubs it in. If we give them the ammo: it's no surprise they fire off the missiles. Some of the inept things you see our players do, or get themselves into crazy situations that no first-grade team seem to emulate, you kinda can't blame commentators. It's...

Have to hope Gus realised after that game in heavy conditions that he needs some tough middle signings for next year. Not fair to expect our inexperienced youngster forwards coming thru to have to compete with the likes of Papa/Tapine/Haas etc without sound big blokes to guide them....not bits...

He was not very effective last night unfortunately and seemed flat.

Will help Dargons not having to have to travel to Magic Round hoopla and return last night? That's a big factor.

Thought it seemed to be a quick 10 mins.

We gotta try and break the spiral so give a genuine 7 a go. Might be just as ineffective but we wont die wondering lol

We won just about every stat and even the penalties 6-2.

For sure. Left edge, our major strike advantage, was non-existent ....to what they really should be producing in games.

More possible disadvantage to us but it is what it is. We need to make it work in our favour bc we have no control over it.

Didn't pick up on that. What do you reckon happened?

The pressure felt by being the major point of attack I guess.

Inexplicable decision from Kiks. And that ruck fumble. Ok it was a careless ptb from Xerri but geez we were attacking their line to regain the lead. This team is so infuriating with stuff ups of simple basic fundamentals. Gonna take longer for CC to get that out of their game. It probably comes...

Does any other team make these fundamental embarrassingly idiotic mistakes on such a regular basis? \_(ツ)_/¯

Listened to Ricky's presser. Had nothing but praise and lots of insight into his young halves he trusted to get the job done.

If only. Wouldn't we go well if we had a 7 of that calibre to manage a game.

Doesn't have a killer instinct. What he does do comes so easy to him and unfortunately he doesn't have the mongrel instinct to go on with it like a Munster etc. If we are picking a Rorters benchie to be his organising 7 to free up his game, then that is the wrong team tactic for the club. He is...

The whole team do not cherish possession and don't play smart a lot of tge time. CC hasn't got that dumb stuff fully out of their game yet.

Laughter is the best medicine to drown your sorrows? Lol

Disappointed and still venting ;) I'm sure everyone is confident we will be a great team but we just aren't ready yet....and if fairs fair, thats only to be expected coming from such a low point.

Critta seems to be playing within himself as well. No where near as tackle busting or lethal as with Penrith. i know we aren't Penrith by any stretch and he hasnt hsd the same opportunities but even one on one with his opposing centre he seems contained. Brilliant as our captain and a great...

Judicial kicking game but we dont have halves who have time or presence to execute.

That was as good a ref performance to us as this club will ever get. The loss all on us.

I know how that feels Ed....thinkin the same when we get to the red zone:( (Red zone for us is red for stop or no man's land lol)

Some of the passing was just awful. So bssic but it puts so much pressure on the ball carrrier or the guy trying to create something. Our backline plays were atrocious at times. We are all disappointed in tonights performance but we'll get there. Ciro must shake up this team tho to introduce...

There's no backline moving forward for him to chime into. We got completely out coached really with Faders up in our line cramping us. Pity is ..we dont have a smart, fast thinking half kicking to counter this.

I still have faith in CC but a good coach recognises deficiencies in his team and makes timely adjustments to bring in players that he has specificly trained up. Hopefully this is exactly what he has in mind for Sexton and perhaps Skelton. As the weeks pass, it 'seems' we won't lose anything by...

It has surely gotten to the stage where CC has to change the trajectory of these results and bring in some players who offer something else to the team. We could go belly up very quickly unless this undisciplined handling and lack of game management and icing opportunities is righted.

Waste of a tackle him running it up on the 2nd.

They all seemed to think they could run over to top of Raiders. Dumb. Ran one out most of the game or if they did pass, they were flat footed and bamboozled what to do next and wasted possession with impossible offloads. Panicked and the fact that there's no real game manager is our downfall and...

Mix up all round lol

Another rumour re Skelton?

^^^^^THIS ^^^^^ Will take a few more (good) wins for supporters to dive headllong into full on consistent faith and confidence ....but we will get there :grinning:

Understand but we have this situation now. It's not the kids' fault (as Ed says...they didn't chose their parental arrangement) so I guess we have to support them and not victimise or stigmatise them as they are innocent in all this.

by supporting kids who have same sex parents.

Thank God it's a Manly (feeder club) jumper neatly spread out on the ground. Watch Buzz photoshop in a Dogs jumper tho ;)

Bit of an ironic statement there but each to their own views and opinions mate ❤️

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-15/western-sydney-council-vote-same-sex-book-ban/103851924?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=other

When they get momentum and creative off loads on a roll they are hard to contain.....a other test for our selections and "the process".

Worked hard to get to the baby steps stage and now it looks like we are ready to put the finishing touches on to start sprinting :)

Hutch ideal team player as a 14. The team look like they need a bit more and a push from the 7 to get over the line.

If we want to advance our game to a higher level, we need a better output and options from our 7.

Hope so for sure. Like to see him given another chance off the bench.

Exactly.....but like all the rest of the rumours re player movements re BBO/..Harrison Edwards etc. ....Sometimes they turn out to be true tho? So people react \_(ツ)_/¯ . We'll know: when we know.

Just rumours on our socials. One picks it up and it snowballs. No one has confirmed or even provided any real info. Hopefully it's just "the bad oil" Druissi was talking about lol

Wonderful news then :) want to see him further developed BY US :)

Only posting that the rumour is going around elsewhere as well as our FB socials.. .effective immediately. If true @The DoggFather and I inconsolable.

Some FB sites saying he is already at Rorters training? :(

Refs woulda had that top of their tip sheet this week.

Someone said: he is loyal at a fault. That probably explains it but nevertheless a concern if he can't or not willing to strengthen the team if an option is there. Hard to criticise him at this stage tho. Hoping he sits down and analysises these close losses and why we didn't come away with a...

Couldn't agree more. Just said something similar in another thread. It's just got to be fixed somehow.

Wondering who played 7 when Sexton was sin-binned?

We all know refs think Pennies are near on faultless lol They have that ref advantage every week. *sarcasm my previous post*

But they are every week lol We can only aspire to be that disciplined in the future and be favoured by refs.

Yes it looks that way. The side is not balanced and we look like we need some more dynamic running/attacking runners. Gus and CC have formulated a plan and are sticking to it. Only hope now that we are progressing so well, that he adapts and introduces some attacking variety into the gameplan...

Would be great if we could get some real intel on when, where, how, exact circumstances of all these penalties and 6 agains and then get a detailed comparison of the opposition's sets and where/if we missed out on them giving away genuine penalties/6agains and we didn't get them from the refs...

Kiks is getting a lot of unlove on FB. Saying he went missing.

Hard lessons for us. We know we don't ever get on the right side of 50/50's or receive 6 agains when warranted but we can play better at keeping the refs at bay and our handling becomes so crucial in keeping possession in those lop sided penalty situations. We are a work in progress :)

We will have to be happy with the improvement we've seen so far and hope that this 7 issue works it's way into being resolved eventuality. It's now very hard to criticise Ciro bc he has done so much for this team. We all know he wont be changing anything, or anyone, all that soon. He is...

Has Skelton leaving been confirmed anywhere? Hard to imagine Gus letting him go or not putting extras into getting him defensively up to speed with so much potential. Will be a serious and frustrating loss if these past 2 years with us was just preparing him for rorters!

These penalties and 6 agains need to be addressed and so does the handling. Once we are on an even keel with that, or ref taken out of having such a big impact on our results, we will be well on our way to staying in Top 8 for the rest of the year. It's been a thing for too long and greatly...

8 Really good assessment of the game. We just arent there yet.we need to throw more at the opposition if we want to win. We can't get a break wiith the refs or 50/50s and we aren't at the stage where we can influence the game or make own luck. The ref was poor IMO and the Pennies got the rub of...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nrl/article-12638455/Souths-Townsville-Blackhawks-Gold-Coast-rugby-league-NRL.html

He never realised his early potential unfortunately after getting his chance to shine. Better off getting a longer contract elsewhere to try and continue his footy career.....feeder club for souths?

Souths?

Plus all the lattes you can drink every day :)

Put Gus' recommendation of @iWahash podcast here and in the dedicated thread.

Gus recommending the podcast :hearteyes:

Thanks for the info :) Lol you all got extra "adventures" on that trip and a few well managed curveballs thrown in as well :)

He is very articulate isn't he and knowledgable and doesn't aggressively talk over the top of other panel members like Kenty. The dynamics of the show has completely changed from a goss session on the players faults and trivialities, to now a thought provoking analyses of RL issues from the...

It's a great feeling to be once again hopeful about putting on a good show (at the very least)against opposition teams. This does not feel like a flash in the pan temporary resurgence. It's real. Dare to dream :) Got me intrigued now hehe. How were you able to fix the coach. Did a passing...

Why yes. Yes, I can :grinning:

Wasn't specificly meaning them but dunno about their status.... No way they'd volunteerily go quiet tho I'm guessing lol

Mooney looks like a Bulldog type player.

It came out that they knew all about the money laundering and the overnight bags full of bundled $100 notes adding up to millions all captured on their CCTV. Sat there and laughed about watching the bikies and mules queue up with their bags of cash, throw 'em up on the counter to be converted to...

Just looked him up. Shadow Olympics Minister. No wonder I hadn't heard of him lately. We haven't started any Olympics facilities yet lol

Another of the ineffectual politicians up here.....think he's still around \_(ツ)_/. With the probable change of Govt he might get a more prominent guernsey.

We were on a Kimberley cruise and could not get much radio reception. Found out the score and was so utterly disappointed that I have never watched the game. Just can't bring myself to watch. We were gonna be Premiers after revolutionising the game with ball playing forwards like Jimmy and...

They'll be safely hidden away in Bali or Vegas or Hawaii tho.

Arrgh so he's one of the judiciary collecting the fines paying for the refs xmas party and trip to Bali ;) Sam Hughes $6000 should pay the bar tab on the first day lol

Don't the RL viewership records trump the AFL quite substantially and AFL is really the only sport where huge crowds are still a thing due to fiercer tribalism, strong traditions and loyalty and nothing else to do in Melbourne lol. Seriously tho those crowds are enviable. Boring as anything but...

Can never have enough accountability with all these betting agencies, Crown, Star etc. Btw we keep hearing that the betting agencies are now major NRL sponsors. How does it work? A conglomerate of all the betting agencies under a group umbrella banded together and hand over a %. Or agreements...

I know shouldn't be saying this...but ...he wears his shorts well too.

I bet Kasey was hoping Sutton got our game so she could return serve with the shocking help he gave her from the bunker lol.

Obviously they were impressed with our Captains respect for Ms Badger ;) as opposed to Bateman's constant questioning :grinning: Chalk that up as another feature of Critta's captaincy.

Thanks for comprehensively clarifying. As usual with most RL media, not all information is factually based. Everything you read you have to take it with a grain of salt. Is there a potential timeline for a 20 team comp out there as yet.

Panthers v Bulldogs Referee: Liam Kennedy Touch Judge: Drew Oultram Touch Judge: Wyatt Raymond* Standby Touch Judge: Tom Cambourn Bunker Review Official: Kasey Badger

Just pondering whether he has started putting a big playing effort in as his get-out clause approaches, in readiness for the feeding frenzy :grinning: Can't see that Titans have had that much value out of him for the top dollar they paid him. Good player but been inconsistent up till recently...