U.S. Politics - Thread

[Rodzilla]

From the Guardian:


In Phoenix, Trump supporters have gathered at the state capitol.

The crowd is chanting “Shame on Fox,” after Fox News declared Biden the winner in Arizona. “More votes are being counted tomorrow at Phoenix City Hall, and we need as many patriots to show up and have a presence outside as possible,” said the Tea Party Patriots group organized the event.

CD's question: What purpose is this going to serve? Counting is going to keep going to the end regardless of how many of them show up waving placards.

the tea party patriots group, lol where have they been for 4 years when trump ran up the debt? in hibernation?

 

[Flanagun]

It's funny how the people most vocal about the dangers of socialism are the ones who have lived under a socialist government.

Not really. It's easier to induce a strong emotional response in people who come from socialist countries by simply invoking the word. Also, people who come from those backgrounds are generally so happy to have escaped one system, they are willing to overlook glaring flaws in the new system they live under.

Still waiting for you to produce evidence of even one socialist policy supported by Biden and the Dems. They are a centrist, corporatist party and have been ever since Bill Clinton became president.

 

[Dawgfather]

Not really. It's easier to induce a strong emotional response in people who come from socialist countries by simply invoking the word. Also, people who come from those backgrounds are generally so happy to have escaped one system, they are willing to overlook glaring flaws in the new system they live under.

Still waiting for you to produce evidence of even one socialist policy supported by Biden and the Dems. They are a centrist, corporatist party and have been ever since Bill Clinton became president.

Having people extremely close to me (without going into details) who come from socialist / communist countries, I can tell you that all of them describe the corruption and other issues of communism and socialism and that western democracies by comparison are entirely better systems.

 

[steeliz]

Do you think Kayleigh McEnany would do atm and dp
@BEAST MODE

I would imagine her as a sub getting humiliated by Cinnamon H!tler.

Yes. I know.

Time for therapy..........................................

 

[Flanagun]

But if the media were fair and accurate in their reporting, and based on BLM's agenda during 2020, you would anticipate Trumps vote with ethnic minorities should have gone backwards - by quite a significant margin.

The fact it did the opposite should leave people asking a number of questions (which I don't expect will happen), because most people have just bought the MSM narrative on Trump. Bad, racist, evil.

I'd say most of the increase is probably attributable to economic and job group at a guess....and as discussed, Obama's administration laid a lot of the groundwork for gains in those areas.

I think it is Trump and the Repubs who should ask themselves why they consistently poll so bad with black people and women. Winning such a small percentage of a minority vote should be a red flag you aren't resonating with that demographic, whether the vote is 6 per cent, 8, or even 12.

 

[Dawgfather]

I'd say most of the increase is probably attributable to economic and job group at a guess....and as discussed, Obama's administration laid a lot of the groundwork for gains in those areas.

I think it is Trump and the Repubs who should ask themselves why they consistently poll so bad with black people and women. Winning such a small percentage of a minority vote should be a red flag you aren't resonating with that demographic, whether the vote is 6 per cent, 8, or even 12.

When you see a racial group voting so clearly along the lines of the colour of their skin, you should be very worried what someone has been telling them.

 

[Flanagun]

Having people extremely close to me (without going into details) who come from socialist / communist countries, I can tell you that all of them describe the corruption and other issues of communism and socialism and that western democracies by comparison are entirely better systems.

I'm not trying to make a case for communism or socialism, I'm simply pointing out that being exposed to a threat (especially for a prolonged period of time) can traumatise a person, or people to the point of believing a threat is present when it simply does not exist.

 

[Flanagun]

When you say a racial group voting so clearly along the lines of the colour of their skin, you should be very worried what someone has been telling them.

So now you are saying 90 per cent of the black people in the US are sheep who can't make up their own minds about issues affecting them? Get your hand off it, mate. Black people do not need the media to tell them what is problematic about their won lives.

 

[Rodzilla]

dawgfather is salty

 

[Flanagun]

dawgfather is salty

Saltier than a boat made of pretzels sailing in the red sea.

 

[Dawgfather]

dawgfather is salty

Of course I'd prefer Trump to have won the election already, but I'm more than happy to congratulate Biden and any of his supporters if Biden is confirmed as the winner.

 

[Dawgfather]

I'm not trying to make a case for communism or socialism, I'm simply pointing out that being exposed to a threat (especially for a prolonged period of time) can traumatise a person, or people to the point of believing a threat is present when it simply does not exist.

People who have lived under socialist governments have first hand experience of the dangers of socialism. They don't need to be told by anyone how dangerous it is because they've seen it for themselves. These people flee socialist countries to get away from socialism. They aren't going to be attracted by socialist ideas in the countries they flee to.

 

[Rodzilla]

Saltier than a boat made of pretzels sailing in the red sea.

lol red sea? does that have more salt than a regular sea?

btw i highly recommend rewatching the sky news mocking biden at his speech yesterday, they thought trump was going to win and had smug comments, especially that paul murray piece of shit lol, it turns out biden was mostly right

 

[wendog33]

Just for Utility.

Let's hear from the man who should be President.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=997672327411330

 

[Rodzilla]

Of course I'd prefer Trump to have won the election already, but I'm more than happy to congratulate Biden and any of his supporters if Biden is confirmed as the winner.

also you must condemn trump if he loses and tries it

 

[Flanagun]

lol red sea? does that have more salt than a regular sea?

btw i highly recommend rewatching the sky news mocking biden at his speech yesterday, they thought trump was going to win and had smug comments, especially that paul murray piece of shit lol, it turns out biden was mostly right

I'll try to remember to watch a bit later after work.

Yes, the red sea is the saltiest sea in the world. (41 parts salt per 1000 parts water)

 

[Flanagun]

People who have lived under socialist governments have first hand experience of the dangers of socialism. They don't need to be told by anyone how dangerous it is because they've seen it for themselves. These people flee socialist countries to get away from socialism. They aren't going to be attracted by socialist ideas in the countries they flee to.

A good thing neither side is PROMOTING any socialist ideas then, isn't it?

 

[CaptainJackson]

People who have lived under socialist governments have first hand experience of the dangers of socialism. They don't need to be told by anyone how dangerous it is because they've seen it for themselves. These people flee socialist countries to get away from socialism. They aren't going to be attracted by socialist ideas in the countries they flee to.

omg you're thick. Do you know what authoritarianism is?

 

[Dawgfather]

A good thing neither side is PROMOTING any socialist ideas then, isn't it?

Except for the video posted by Kamala Harris the day before the election promoting equity, which is literally fundamental to socialism.

 

[Rodzilla]

and they are still pushing that fake story about 135k-200k votes suddenly showing up all for biden

ive already explained what happened earlier in the thread because i saw it happen at the time watching it live

how come the trump people arent complaining that they took away about 135k votes from biden?

lol there is a picture that shows biden getting an instant update to 2.130m while trump didnt get any votes and stayed at 2.200m and trump supporters claiming it is proof of a conspiracy and gothedoggies even tried it here

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1323988548832251904

it was a simple error and they gave biden some more votes by mistake and i said it made no sense because there was a further update that had trump with 2.27m and biden with about 2.07m after they fixed their mistake, but if trump people want to play this game then our people should get these images and lie that they stole votes away from Biden and are cheating scumbags lol

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1323929039367741440

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1323941663908179969